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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: USB Flash Disk - Trash Can Reply with quote

Does anybody know if there is an option in Nautilus to turn off moving items to the trash can on certain disks?

Whenever I delete an item from my flash disk, the items go to .trash-username on the disk. If I don't have hidden folders visible then I don't know when to empty it. The first time my flash disk got filled, it took me forever to figure out this problem. I think any new user would be confused by this.

Also, I'm new to this. Do requests posted on this forum ever get put into future releases or is the forum just for bugs?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: USB Flash Disk - Trash Can Reply with quote

jpietari wrote:
Does anybody know if there is an option in Nautilus to turn off moving items to the trash can on certain disks?

Whenever I delete an item from my flash disk, the items go to .trash-username on the disk. If I don't have hidden folders visible then I don't know when to empty it. The first time my flash disk got filled, it took me forever to figure out this problem. I think any new user would be confused by this.

Also, I'm new to this. Do requests posted on this forum ever get put into future releases or is the forum just for bugs?


What version of Gnome are you running? I just did a test by creating a file on my flash disk, then deleting it. It went to my trash can on my desktop. It was my understanding the trash can is shared by all volumes either on your desktop, or in "computer". Not sure if this is the behavior when the disk is on another system. I am assuming the flash disk is local, right?

Also, not sure about the bug/feature issue. I probably should know that, but I don't... Razz Bugzilla http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ is for bugs, but not sure about this forum being used for feature requests, at least officially. I do see those here, but haven't followed one from posting to inclusion in the Gnome code base. I have used the forum for for helping others and seeking help.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: RE: Flash Disk Reply with quote

Thanks for your help.

I'm running 2.16.1 and the flash disk is local.

I did a test by creating a folder on the flash disk and deleting it. The folder went to the trash (.trash) on the flash disk, and showed up in the system trash. So you are right that it is centralized. Now that I know that, how do I just empty the trash for the flash disk? Would I have to navigate to the trash can on the flash disk and delete all the files or is there a way of showing the deleted files by location?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:38 am    Post subject: Re: RE: Flash Disk Reply with quote

jpietari wrote:
Thanks for your help.

I'm running 2.16.1 and the flash disk is local.

I did a test by creating a folder on the flash disk and deleting it. The folder went to the trash (.trash) on the flash disk, and showed up in the system trash. So you are right that it is centralized. Now that I know that, how do I just empty the trash for the flash disk? Would I have to navigate to the trash can on the flash disk and delete all the files or is there a way of showing the deleted files by location?


OK, I see your dilemma: you want to be able to empty a seperate trash for each volume (drive).

Well, I did some googling and came up with this, albeit it's a bit old:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2004-August/004539.html

The entire mail is about Gnome trash - the part you might be interested in is "Bad things about the gnome-vfs approach:". So, unless the Gnome Trash behavior is changed from the writing of this email, I would say you are currently stuck with a central trash receptacle.

I suppose you could create a symlink to the ".Trash-user" directory on the flash disk you wanted and store it somewhere easily accessible so you could empty it. BUT...you would have to manually delete the file it contains, and I am not sure how that would affect the rest of the trash "system". Also not sure if a symlink to a hidden directory would itself be hidden. Not tried that Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: Flash Disk - USB Reply with quote

Snippet from: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2004-August/004539.html
* Since trash directories are not shared by everyone it is sometimes a
bit hard to understand why a disk is full. The disk can be
out-of-space because another user has trash on it, and yet your
trashcan is empty. This is especially problematic on removable
media.

The above snippet sums up my confusion. A tried to create a symlink, but that operation is not allowed. Bottom line, I guess users need to be more careful when deleting files from removable disks!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Flash Disk - USB Reply with quote

jpietari wrote:
Snippet from: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2004-August/004539.html
* Since trash directories are not shared by everyone it is sometimes a
bit hard to understand why a disk is full. The disk can be
out-of-space because another user has trash on it, and yet your
trashcan is empty. This is especially problematic on removable
media.

The above snippet sums up my confusion. A tried to create a symlink, but that operation is not allowed. Bottom line, I guess users need to be more careful when deleting files from removable disks!


Yes, or allow the default behavior and be careful when emptying the trash. You could open Trash and selectively delete items, but that's kind of inconvenient, and there is no indication of where a specific file was originally deleted from.

The symlink idea popped into my head this morning, with only one cup of coffee, so it was untested and obviously doesn't work! Wink
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