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poel
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 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:47 am Post subject: should Gnome 2.10 be released??? |
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Acting as typical desktop user, guess what was my first step towrads customizing my freshly installed Gnome 2.10?
Of course - editing menus!
Being quite experienced user of desktop environments, for more than an hour I wasn't able to figure out how to achieve this!
Until I have found that there is no simple (GUI) way to do this!
OK - I am not afraid of command line, I was using Gentoo, loved fluxbox so I started to look for official Gnomes guide to freedesktop menu specification and how to edit menu using conf files, BUT I FOUND NONE.
Reading bold statements about new great functionalities that allmighty Gnome 2.10 brings to us all I couldn't find a single official information about this disability.
I consider menu system to be one of most basic elements constitutioning desktop environment, and I feel strongly disappointed by this crippleness.
Can anybody explain me how could 2.10 be released without NO decent menu editing capabilities?
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jauco
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simple, it uses a software management technique called 'timeboxing'. it means you have fixed release dates and code freezes that cannot be altered. If something isn't finished before the code freeze, well it just has to wait for the next realease.
Timeboxing allows for a release schedule that third parties (like redhat or ubuntu) can rely on and makes sure enough time is spent on beta testing and such things.
There is a gnome menu editor in gnomefiles btw ( http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=867 )
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Arker
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People seem quite happy with this one too. I'm about to give it a shot as well.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Arker wrote: | People seem quite happy with this one too. I'm about to give it a shot as well.
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That is the one I use with Ubuntu and I am quite happy with it as well.
While I still feel they could have put off the move to the xdg menu backends until they had a menu editor I am very happy with the direction gnome is going and do a google search on the gnome roadmap and check out what is coming with 2.12.
Just the reduction of memory footprint alone and the new menu editing will be worth the price of admission but the developers are also planning to improve network browsing, replace esd with a new server backend, and other really nice improvements.
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kastorff
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Rule number 1 of customer satisfaction: Never take anything away without replacing it with equal or better value.
Releasing gnome 2.10 without menu editing when previous versions had it was a mistake. |
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jauco
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that's flamebait I guess
anyway we'll soon have it again so I guess it doesn't matter anymore.
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resten
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Gnome 2.10 is unstable like a windows 98, slowly as windows xp. Hmm desktop environment without menu edition and etc. < win98. I have hated Gnome! I use only Linux on my desktop. I'll NEVER more donate on Gnome. Linux = stable, presently Gnome is UNSTABLE & VERY SLOWLY.
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Beer
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http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/
| Quote: | | The panel will also include an integrated menu editor compliant with the Freedesktop.org menu specification. This menu editor is not yet fully featured, however offers most of the basic functionality for systems administrators wanting to lock down menu items. Using the Freedesktop.org menu specification allows the user to choose any menu editor he/she wants, and there are several excellent third-party menu editors currently being developed also. |
This is especially impressive
| Quote: | Clipboard Management
New clipboard management, based on the Freedesktop.org specification and tightly integrated with GNOME, allows for objects to persist in the clipboard longer than the lifetime of an application. This means that if you cut or copy an object and then exit that application, the item you put on the clipboard will remain until you replace it. The new clipboard manager is technically superior to existing implementations and integrates tightly with specially designed GTK+ APIs, allowing for a faster and more flexible clipboard implementation. |
nrpms.net has a pretty cool build of gnome with X xcomposition/xdamage built in the rpms, but it's still pretty beta. I tried it and it worked minimally.
I think the xcomp stuff built into gnome is SUPER. I just love the transparent windows, and gdesklets stuff!!!
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